You Are A Racist!

You are a racist. Statistics don’t lie. 15% of the population is committing half the crime. I was watching a group of black leaders discuss issues concerning the black community. They were all crying about how racist everyone is. One guy commented that there are racist out there, but the problems still remain. He wanted to stop moaning about racism and start dooing something about the community. Some people have a victum mantality and others look for solutions. You are living with a victum mentality. Our country is majority white. If you want to be in a majority black country, move to one. If you are fine living here, do something about the problems that foster crime in your own community.

Bubba,

Learn to spell or use spell check then come and tell me about how it is a victim mentality that continues to keep such glaring disparity between the black and white communities. And you speak of doing something about the problems that foster crime in my community. Well in my community the criminals are white, what should I do about that? But if by “MY” community you mean the black community I would have to say that if blacks weren’t unemployed at twice the rate of whites maybe there would be less crime. But someone like you would rather not find that out, right?

And just in case you didn’t know, the white community commits more crimes than the black community. What are you doing to put a stop to it? Where are your community meetings to address this FACT? Where are the white leaders pointing fingers at the white people and asking them what they are prepared to do about the rampant crime in their communities? They are nowhere, that’s where. And the reason they are nowhere is because the focus is on blacks as if we are the only race that commits crime. Get a freaking clue.

Our country is a majority white, means what exactly?  Does it mean that blacks shouldn’t expect fair treatment under the law? Blacks should be content with the blatant racism that is rampant in our country?  Blacks should only focus on blacks and continue to let the systemic racism run amok in the race card playing white community? Or should we just let the status quo reign supreme and do nothing to fix the problem?

The problem in this country is that we want to constantly focus on the symptoms and never the disease. If someone walked into the doctor’s office with blood gushing from a wound in their arm and the only thing the doctor can focus on is that the person has a dirty bloody shirt and continues to tell the person that they need clean clothes, the problem never gets fixed. Think about that one, because this is what you are telling me to do. Only look at the symptom of racism not the racism. That might be helpful for those whites who wish to continue being racist but it does nothing to help black people. But of course that isn’t your main concern.

Your main concern is for blacks to stop crying about the treatment in this country and just put band aids on the gaping wounds that white privilege is cutting into us. Now if you want a country that is devoid of blacks, why don’t YOU and the other racists move to one? Don’t presume to tell me to move out of a country that some of my ancestors not only OWNED first but the others actually built. You don’t have the freaking right. Do you tell the white people who are unhappy with this black president that if they want a white president they should move to a country with one? I bet you don’t.

Most people like you wouldn’t have the good sense to see the hypocrisy in your statements. You sit there and tell people that they should stop moaning about racism and do something for themselves. So we decide to do something for ourselves and apply for jobs yet, the majority of businesses are owned and operated by white people. We then find ourselves being passed over for jobs such as the statistical study by Devah Pager shows. That a black man with a college degree has a call back rate on jobs less than that of a white man with a felony record. Nope that isn’t racism, right Bubba? That is just a black man who doesn’t want to work.

Well, unfortunately the statistical facts are against you on this Bubba. Remember you said that the statistics don’t lie? So while you are gabbing on about how blacks are playing the victim, I am looking at plenty of statistics to show that blacks are consistently the victims of all sorts of racism. And if we see that blacks are being victimized while trying to get jobs would that then show that blacks being unemployed at twice the rate of whites is just a symptom of racism?

So, then what of that victim mentality? Should those blacks who are surely being victimized just ignore that and move to countries where blacks can get employed? Or maybe the white’s who would rather hire a white felon instead of an educated black man should move to a country where there are no blacks.

So maybe instead of pointing your ignorant finger at the black community, you will point your finger right back at your own community. Maybe if people such as yourself worked within your own community and tried to change this system of white privilege and systemic racism, blacks wouldn’t be victims and have no victim mentality. Then maybe they wouldn’t be unemployed at twice the rate, which drives up crime, be denied housing, services and quality medical care.

But then who would be the crime scapegoat for white racists then Bubba? Oh yeah, the Hispanics, who get called out every time someone mentions the high white crime rate. So in the vain of Dr. Richard Kimble in the movie Fugitive, It wasn’t us white people it was the one armed Hispanic; right Bubba? So it sounds to me like you have a lot of work to do in order to straighten out your own community before you go chastising some other community.

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23 responses to “You Are A Racist!

  1. Man I feel ya on that one. There is this local journalist chick complaining here in Charlotte, NC about the Racial Justice Act that was passed by the legislature and enacted into law. Basically the law seeks to eliminate the racial disparity in the application of the death penalty. She’s against it saying that whites here are executed as much as blacks. I don’t know where she learned math but Obama’s election has really made it harder on black people because of the hatred whites now feel comfortable expressing. It’s a sickness and a true mental illness that many whites fully embrace. Hating a person because they have more pigmentation is the stupidest yet most convenient way of stratifying a society.

  2. nfamous23,

    You are right about racism being a sickness that affects many. It wouldn’t matter how clear the disparity was for the death penalty in NC this lady and those like her refuse to see any of it. And yes it has become politically correct right now to show your hatred of blacks without any repercussions. Yet, many of them hide behind this so called hatred of “policy” to mask their true hatred which they pretend not to have.

    Thanks so much for the comment.

  3. John

    “And just in case you didn’t know, the white community commits more crimes than the black community.”

    The white community also has more people who don’t commit crimes. It has both more people who graduate from high school, and more people who don’t graduate from high school. More people who go to college, and more people who don’t go to college. More people who are doctors, and more people who aren’t doctors. We could go on like this all day. The reason being that the white community is about five times as large as the black community. And that is the significance of rates – its the only way to compare populations of different size. Please, for the love of God, take a statistics course.

    Look at it this way:

    Say you have two buckets. Bucket A contains ten quarts of water, while Bucket B contains two quarts. Someone adds three ounces of poison to Bucket A, and two ounces of poison to Bucket B, and stirs them so the poison is well mixed. You’re dying of thirst, from which bucket do you take a drink? While Bucket A contains 50% more poison, it is also the more diluted, you’ll get a lower dose, and be more likely to survive. Bucket B contains less poison, but at a much greater concentration – and is therefore more dangerous; more likely to provide a lethal dose.

    Concentration (or rate) tells you more than raw numbers.

  4. John,

    I’m sorry your analogy is not on par. For one thing you want to concentrate on rates not raw numbers. Isn’t that always the way? It seems to me that more is more is more. You can’t have it both ways. Let’s focus on the numbers when it makes us look better but focus on the rates when it doesn’t. Hmm hmm!

    The problem is this, white people prey on white people for the most part crime wise. And black people prey on black people for the most part. So why is it that white people are so concerned with black crime instead of the white criminal? Aren’t they MORE likely to be killed, robbed or raped by a white person with whom they have far more contact with than some wayward black guy who probably isn’t even in their community.

    So anyhow the point I was making with my statement about white crime is that it EXISTS, so why don’t you point the finger at it? Why is it that somehow we should point the finger at black crime numbers and ignore white crime numbers? Crime is crime and it should all be looked at. And if we were to stop focusing on the symptoms and focus on the causality maybe we would fix the problem.

    So you go and drink out of your poison bucket A or B, I truly don’t care. What I see is that there is a swelling disparity between the two communities. Yet, when you speak of rates and numbers where are your raw numbers and rates for the amount of black people who are railroaded due to racism? Where are the numbers showing the amount of white people who were allowed to plea down the exact same crimes that blacks are getting twice amount of sentence time for?

    You know the justice department admits that there is a problem with racism in the system that they don’t know how to fix. Well if the problem was affecting white people I am pretty damn sure they would figure out a way to solve the problem. So we know that the system is inherently unfair according to the justice department yet you want to hold fast to numbers and rates. Give me a break. Until equality is for everyone numbers and rates are really unreliable.

    Thanks but no thanks, I think I will continue to avoid the larger amount of criminals.

  5. John

    “you want to concentrate on rates not raw numbers.”

    Correct.

    “Isn’t that always the way?”

    “You can’t have it both ways. ”

    My stance on this is consistent – rates always tell you more if you are comparing populations of different size. I don’t know where I’ve attempted to have it both ways.

    Yes, if you’re comparing a phenomenon between two populations of significantly different sizes, you must look at rates – raw numbers will tell you nothing if one population is 40 million and the other is 210 million.

    “The problem is this, white people prey on white people for the most part crime wise. And black people prey on black people for the most part.”

    Our society is still quite segregated (by choice of both black and white), so most interactions – good or bad – will be intra-racial.

    “Aren’t they MORE likely to be killed, robbed or raped by a white person with whom they have far more contact with than some wayward black guy who probably isn’t even in their community.”

    True, you can only be killed, robbed, or raped by someone you interact with. But a white person who interacts primarily with blacks has a much greater chance of being killed, robbed, or raped than a white person who interacts primarily with other whites.

    Conversely, a black person who interacts primarily with whites has a lesser chance of being killed, robbed, or raped that a black person who interacts primarily with other blacks.

    “where are your raw numbers and rates for the amount of black people who are railroaded due to racism? ”

    Where are your numbers for that? Where is your proof, your evidence?

    “Where are the numbers showing the amount of white people who were allowed to plea down the exact same crimes that blacks are getting twice amount of sentence time for?”

    Where are your numbers for this? Just because you say it happens doesn’t make it so.

    And the sentencing disparity is a myth. The one study that claimed to prove it did not take into account previous records, details of the crime, severity, use of a handgun, etc. Further, more detailed studies that controlled for all the variables found no sentencing disparity whatsoever. They also found that whites serving on juries were slightly more likely to convict white defendants than black defendants; and that black jurors were three times as likely to convict white defendants than black defendants.

    “You know the justice department admits that there is a problem with racism in the system that they don’t know how to fix.”

    The US Justice Department follows the absurd disparate impact doctrine – disparate outcome alone is considered proof of racism. They also count Mexicans as “white” if they commit a hate crime, but Hispanic if they are a victim. In all other categories, Hispanics – who are typically of primarily indigenous American descent – are “white” if they commit a crime. The US JD has no credibility on race issues.

    “Thanks but no thanks, I think I will continue to avoid the larger amount of criminals.”

    I and all other non-violent whites thank you for avoiding us.

  6. John,

    My point with having it both ways was general. And as far as I am concerned the post wasn’t about statistics nor raw numbers. I am all too tired of people coming to my blog and complaining about either. And since it wasn’t about the “numbers” I am saying in my post to Bubba that it isn’t always about the statistics. I can get statistics to prove anything I want, but raw numbers don’t lie.

    You assertion that segregation is equally participated in is just pure fallacy. If I’m not mistaken there is no such thing as black flight where there IS a white flight. There is no redlining that is done to stop white people from buying homes in predominantly black areas yet there is redlining which stops blacks from purchasing in all white areas. So I think that it isn’t by choice that blacks avoid living with white people. And as far as working with white people, blacks don’t have that luxury.

    We HAVE to work with white people if we want jobs. Yet, there are tons of companies out there where they have enough minorities you can count on one hand. I have worked at plenty. The majority of places I have worked, and NO they weren’t ALL in predominantly white areas, where they had as few as 5 people out of 5 or 600 employees. Wow what a coincidence!

    My point with asking you for numbers or statistics is that those statistics and numbers aren’t usually at the top of anyone’s list of complaints. You and folks like you will always have numbers or statistics for black crime rates but then could care less about any other statistics showing where blacks aren’t the problem. And as far as I am concerned you can make all the excuses in the world as to why the justice department talks of the disparity, that don’t make the disparity untrue.

    And in fact if like you said the statistics tell us more, then I will go ahead and believe their statistics on the disparity in punishment and plea bargains. This is exactly what I am talking about with having it both ways. Believe one set of statistics then give an excuse as to why the other statistics don’t count, matter or whatever.

    We see the FACTS with the sentencing for crack vs. cocaine. They are ridiculous but I guess you will complain that crack is somehow worse than cocaine so it was OK. When in fact drugs are drugs and should be treated as such. But of course there goes that crazy absurd disparate impact doctrine again, right? And please give me a link to this “study” that shows white jurors go easy on black defendants. I find that absolutely funny! And please make sure the study is done by a credible source. I would hate to go and read this study on the white power website or such.

    And just as I thought, it wasn’t us white’s it was the one armed Mexican. HA! I knew that would come out sooner or later. When you look at black crime statistics do you also say that there are Hispanics mixed in with those numbers? Because you know that when checking boxes for white or black they DO ASK if you are of Hispanic descent. So I am guessing that the numbers for the white race are just that the WHITE race.

    And the JD has no credibility on race issues EXCEPT when they give numbers on blacks, right? Man where do you people with this stuff come from? The hypocrisy is deep. Way too deep for me at least. And I don’t avoid ALL other non-violent white’s, black’s or whoever. I avoid criminal elements. And that means I don’t do business in dark alleys, I don’t place myself in situations where I am a target for victimization.

    Now I can say that each and every time I have been burglarized, had my car stolen or had my money pilfered it was a white person who did it. So I guess I should have just as much right as white people who claim to have been victimized by a black and fear them, to fear white people. So if it is good for the goose it is good for the gander. I will keep my eye on the folks who have victimized me if that is OK with you. I NOW live in an all black neighborhood and haven’t had the problems I have in my old all white neighborhood. But that must be a fluke, right?

  7. John

    “I can get statistics to prove anything I want”

    While its easy to lie with statistics, its even easier to lie without them.

    “but raw numbers don’t lie.”

    Raw numbers don’t lie, but they can be misleading. Look up a listing of the most dangerous and safest cities to live in, and their crime rates will be given as rates (number per 100,000). The reason is that a large city will have more crimes than a small city simply because it has more people. That alone does not make the large city more dangerous.

    If we look at raw numbers alone, we get contradictions. More criminals are white, but more non-criminals are white. What does that tell us? It can’t be true that whites are both more and less likely to commit crime, so all that really tells us is that we have more white people.

    “You and folks like you will always have numbers or statistics for black crime rates but then could care less about any other statistics showing where blacks aren’t the problem.”

    I can’ t speak for anyone else, but I’m concerned with anything that causes a negative impact on society (of course, people will disagree with what those things are). I’m concerned about crime in general, regardless of the perpetrator. But the accurate, non-massaged statistics indicate higher crime rates among blacks, so this is a bigger concern, as resources are limited and must be allocated effectively. As statistics also indicate that most crime is intra-racial, and blacks are more likely to be victims of crime than whites, I would think the higher black crime rate would be
    an issue of concern in the black community. There is where people like Bubba are coming from – its seems you’d rather complain about white racism than address the more immediate issue of black (on black) crime.

    “You assertion that segregation is equally participated in is just pure fallacy.”

    I can’t argue with anything you wrote after this statement. I only meant that in terms of social interactions, where to live, eat, worship, etc. people seem to voluntarily segregate. I think this is human nature, as its been consistent all over the world throughout history, and is a reason that I support the formation of more black-owned businesses, and have no problem with BET (its existence, I do find its programming rather offensive, as do many blacks), UNCF, etc.

    “And as far as I am concerned you can make all the excuses in the world as to why the justice department talks of the disparity, that don’t make the disparity untrue.”

    I have a problem with the standard used by the Justice Department – a disparity of outcome is automatically assumed to be evidence of racism, when other factors could be involved as well. Its simply bad science to eliminate other potential variables and assume a causal relationship simply because a correlation has been established.

    “We see the FACTS with the sentencing for crack vs. cocaine. They are ridiculous but I guess you will complain that crack is somehow worse than cocaine so it was OK.”

    You should do a little research on the crack/coke issue. The stiffer penalties for crack came about because black community leaders demanded them due to the effect crack was having on blacks. At the time, they claimed racism because crack wasn’t singled out as a separate issue, and assumed this was the case because its victims were typically black. Fast forward fifteen years, and now the complaint is that racism is behind the sentencing difference. Civil rights activists have a short memory.

    “This is exactly what I am talking about with having it both ways.”

    I’ve never actually seen these stats on plea bargains, despite looking for them. I’ve seen the stats on sentencing disparity, and it was a poor study design that has been disproven with further research.

    “And just as I thought, it wasn’t us white’s it was the one armed Mexican.”

    Come on now, you’re stretching a little bit. I’m not saying that whites don’t commit any crimes, only that the number is inflated by including Hispanics. And yes, black Hispanics are included in the black numbers. The difference is that (1) few Hispanics are counted as black while most are counted as white, and (2) those counted as black are of African descent while most of those counted as white are not of European descent, and would more accurately be called Amerindian.

    “And the JD has no credibility on race issues EXCEPT when they give numbers on blacks, right?”

    The JD’s munbers aren’t just an unreliable mess. The verifiable discrepancies are always those that inflate the white crime rate. If such a pattern were reversed, I’m sure you’d feel comfortable calling the black stats questionable while trusting the remaining stats.

    “So I am guessing that the numbers for the white race are just that the WHITE race.”

    Take a look at the stats for hate crimes. Hispanic does not exist as an offender category, and the native American category does not have enough crimes in it to account for a group of people that are around 18% of the population. But Hispanic does exist as a victim category. Look at the general crime stats; again, no Hispanic category, and not enough crimes in the native American column for such a large group.

    “Now I can say that each and every time I have been burglarized, had my car stolen or had my money pilfered it was a white person who did it. So I guess I should have just as much right as white people who claim to have been victimized by a black and fear them, to fear white people.”

    I respect your right to draw conclusions based on your experiences and associate with whoever you chose.

    “I NOW live in an all black neighborhood and haven’t had the problems I have in my old all white neighborhood. But that must be a fluke, right?”

    Probably.

  8. John,

    This post isn’t about statistics so I will let you continue if you want but I am through. I told you before I am tired of people coming here to argue about statistics. Go to a statistics blog for that. This isn’t one. But I will agree with you on one thing. I too am only concerned with crime no matter the race. We should be looking to eradicate ALL crime not just crime in certain communities. But like I said all we focus on is crime in the black community.

    Also, you presume to know what should be more important in the black community. Give me a break. Like I said before, crime is nothing more than a symptom. That is why I choose not to dwell on that. We all “should” know that if we fix other factors in our communities that crime rates would go down. But alas you are another just like Bubba who wants black people to focus on symptoms of disease instead of the disease.

    It makes no sense. It is just like drugs. We focus on the drug instead of the conditions that drives people into drug abuse. We focus on the wrong things and then complain when people want to look at the real deal. Racism IS THE PROBLEM. If we didn’t have such disparity we would have far less crime.

    It is obvious that in the white community alone the reason there are so many criminals is mainly due to poverty. So if we can make that assertion then why can’t blacks have the same problem? If poverty is a crime incubator so to speak then why don’t we look at the causation of such poverty. You can deny studies showing the disparity of how people of different races are hired if you want.

    But, since the study wasn’t about racism in hiring but discrimination against ALL felony having men applying for jobs along with those with non felonies we can see that the numbers weren’t manipulated. The end result didn’t lie. White felony wielding men were hired more often than NON FELONY DEGREE HAVING BLACK MEN. Now you can make any excuse you want such as it depends on their crime.

    I am sorry, it doesn’t matter what their crime was. These white men barely finished high school and you will tell me that they were more qualified than a degree holding black man? Now the minute we turn that situation around you would probably scream that affirmative action got those black felony cases their jobs while good white men were passed over. But it is interesting that the numbers never go the opposite way. So there MUST be another factor and it is called racism.

    So how in the hell is racism which causes black people to be passed over for jobs which would help them to escape the poverty and criminal element not a factor in how many criminals are black? But let’s look at crime instead, right? And of course, only a really, really small number of Hispanics are counted as blacks where as the majority of Hispanics are counted as white driving the numbers skyrocket. OK. Whatever! If that is your excuse then you run with it.

    But, if they are white Hispanics they are WHITE Hispanics. That means the crime was committed by a white person. Soon I will hear that the other part of the crime numbers were Italians or Russians or something else. It never ends. There is always someone else that commits crime for white people. Have you ever noticed how they don’t include white collar crimes in those numbers? Because we know the numbers will skyrocket again and then those folks will be Hispanic too, right?

    If you haven’t seen any statistics on plea bargains then should I be saying that “just because you say it doesn’t happen doesn’t make it so?” The problem is that we need to stop playing games with statistics and look at the PROBLEMS which brings poverty which breeds crime like I said. The truth of the matter is that in black communities they have substandard schools, health care, employment opportunities and policing. We have gentrification, businesses such hair salons, gas stations, convenience stores all of which are owned by outside races which take that money right out of the black community back to wherever they live.

    We have a lack of commitment or any other such representation from our elected officials. Yet, somehow all of these issues are black people’s doing even though there are NO black owned or operated banks in which we can get business loans. Which were also areas which it has been proven over and over is wrought with racism. It has been proven over and over that people white and black with the exact same credit score, incomes, and debt were treated totally differently by banks.

    The white group received bank loans twice as much and with better rates etc. Just a fluke? And don’t tell me the study was faulty since they looked at a very large pool of people. How about the fact that blacks make less money than whites regardless if they have the same qualifications. But I guess those statistics can’t be trusted either.

    We all sit here daily and look at the blatant disparity and then want to sit here and tell someone what SHOULD be more important an issue to look at in the black community. Give me a break. You know the white community has a serious problem with racism and maybe that should be your main concern instead of the Hispanic committing crimes and using the white race as his cover.

    Like I said to Bubba the white race has too many problem in their own community to have the gall to sit and point the finger of shame anywhere else. You need to clean up your acts. Why don’t you work towards equality? Why not work to end the disparity? Why not work to ensure that each and every American regardless of race has the same chance at education, health care, employment and housing? Because we could be having more fun pointing the finger away from our own problems.

    Racism is ALL of our problem NOT just a black problem.

  9. John

    “But, since the study wasn’t about racism in hiring but discrimination against ALL felony having men applying for jobs along with those with non felonies we can see that the numbers weren’t manipulated.”

    I’ve read the two studies that were done (I forget the researcher’s name). The first (in Milwaukee) was poorly designed, and conclusions about race are questionable. Its my opinion that it wasn’t designed to address race, but she noticed the disparity is reported it. The second, in New York City, corrected the design flaws and got comparable results, this verifying the questionable conclusion from the initial study. I do believe its worth pointing out that the New York study found potential racism in only 10% of employers (again, its how you present the data). 10% is 10% too much, but its not an insurmountable hurdle for a group of people that are 13% of the population (I believe around 20% in NYC).

    “So there MUST be another factor and it is called racism.”

    I’m not foolish enough to believe racism is gone; I just don’t see it as being nearly as omnipresent as you seem to.

    “But, if they are white Hispanics they are WHITE Hispanics.”

    But that’s the issue. Most of the Hispanics counted as white are not white; they are the descendants of the natives of what is now Mexico and the southwest US. That would make them native American, but they are counted as white. That is a rather odd decision; and it has been brought to the attention of the JD, who refuses to alter this inaccurate method of recordkeeping. Again, you can look at the stats if you want; this is an area where my point is undeniable.

    “It has been proven over and over that people white and black with the exact same credit score, incomes, and debt were treated totally differently by banks.”

    Actually, no that hasn’t been proven. What’s been proven is that blacks are more likely to be denied a loan. But that the denial rates match the credit history, with blacks being much more likely to have poor credit than whites. Blacks who have been approved for loans have comparable rates of repayment as whites who have been approved for loans – but this sample only includes those with good enough credit to get the loan in the first place, and is not applicable to those who haven’t been approved for a loan (black or white).

    “We have gentrification, businesses such hair salons, gas stations, convenience stores all of which are owned by outside races which take that money right out of the black community back to wherever they live. ”

    And these businesses are typically started by individuals who worked, learned a trade, saved money, lived frugally, and eventually had enough to get started. There is nothing stopping a black person from doing the same thing; other than initiative and willingness to take a risk.

    “the white race has too many problem in their own community to have the gall to sit and point the finger of shame anywhere else. ”

    That finger is typically only pointed to defend against unfounded, or at least exaggerate, accusations of widespread racism.

    One more statement regarding statistics. Here is your statement:

    “And if we see that blacks are being victimized while trying to get jobs would that then show that blacks being unemployed at twice the rate of whites is just a symptom of racism?”

    But don’t the raw numbers indicate that there are more unemployed whites than unemployed blacks? Going by your standard of using raw numbers, white unemployment is a bigger problem than black unemployment. Therefore since black unemployment isn’t an issue, your claim or racism is baseless.

    I don’t want to go back and forth on this anymore that you do, and its your blog, so if you choose to reply, I’ll let you get the last word.

  10. John,

    You know what, you have an excuse for every instance of racism and that is why it is INSURMOUNTABLE a task to conquer. No matter what the instance you will find a way to make it insignificant. Unfortunately this is the mindset of a lot of people from the dominant community. It isn’t insurmountable. Yet, that is all fine and dandy when you don’t have to be the one who has to deal with this. Would it be OK if we turned it around so that black felons were getting jobs over white college educated men?

    Or would that be totally unjustifiable and need to be corrected? Of course you would see it that way, because you would fall into the 10% or whatever percent that keeps you from getting employed. Every study, every statistic, everything that might show any disparity and you have an excuse as to why it is wrong, doesn’t matter and is insignificant.

    I am sure you have every excuse in the book ready to combat the reason that blacks are unemployed at MORE than twice the rate of white people. And that is too bad. Because I have seen the racism first hand and NO ONE is going to tell me that it is insignificant. And guess what I am not the only black person who SEES this. And there ARE white people who see it too. But it doesn’t matter if the majority of people who are needed to make a difference wants to see it whatever disparity as insignificant and surmountable.

    You are so full of crap! I am NOT talking about black people with bad credit histories. I am talking about studies that show black people with the SAME OR COMPARABLE CREDIT HISTORY as their white counterpart being denied. And if black people ARE being denied while the white person with the same or comparable credit history are being accepted, what do you believe is the reason? Every excuse, every rationale as to why it wasn’t racism. You are trying to insert a study that is not being discussed. I am talking about when all things being equal! Not when a white person has a great credit history while the black person has a bad credit history.

    But the only thing that needs to be talked about is WHY do you feel that any bit of racism is OK. Why do you believe that it is OK as long as it isn’t insurmountable? Don’t you think that this type of bull affects a population when they see themselves being denied, turned away, turned down for jobs, loans and whatever else that they should have the SAME access to as white people? But you see it IS OK as long as it isn’t white people who have it happening to them on a constant basis.

    I won’t bother with the rest of your comment because it is more of the same. Black people obviously don’t get trained or try and start businesses. Because if I quoted the statistics for how blacks are being denied business loans you would just say it wasn’t insurmountable and that there were all these other factors that make this OK. We now see that to you at least racism is tolerable as long as we can find a way to deflect the problem.

    Deny, deny, deny! I understand you are giving me the last word, but you should really try walking a lifetime in black shoes before you start your racism denials.

  11. Marty

    I’m going to stop blaming and propose solutions. Maybe this could help get our cities back in order so they can once again become the economic engines of our country again.

    1. Eliminate gangs. The police, no matter what their color can not do this on their own, change has to come from within the communities the gangs belong to. Also, no drive-bys, white people are scared shitless of random crime. It’s one thing to kill a drug dealer who screwed another guy over, heck YOU CAN KILL WHITE PEOPLE IF THEY ARE IN A GANG/DRUG RING and we won’t care, but to destroy innocent lives in your turf wars is unacceptable.

    2. Turn the music off. If I have to get up to go to work in the morning, I don’t need a ghetto blaster thumping it’s bass down the street at 2 a.m.

    3. Clean it up. If there’s trash on the ground, prostitutes on the corners and crackheads loitering in the parks people who would otherwise be willing to bring money into the city are not going to purchase homes there.

    3½. If you own a house, clean up your yard. I know that white people (in trailer parks) leave rusted cars on their lawns and have pink flamingos and gnomes everywhere, but if you own a house take care of it. Don’t litter. It brings down property values. Don’t put up a 4ft. chain link fence either, it looks ugly and seeing as how you can just step over it you might as well just not have a fence. Also, don’t own pit bulls and rottweilers, they’re expensive and they eat babies.

    4. I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THE POLICE ARE ASSHOLES who mostly come from the lower class segments of the white population. I also understand that most of these guys barely manage to have a HS education, tend to be racist, are uncreative and don’t know how to deal with people because their worldview is skewed toward the side of suspicion and contempt.

    4½. Having said that. Don’t put yourself in compromising positions. If you’re not at 7/11 or the Exxon Station at 2 a.m. when the drug bust goes down, there’s probably no reason to consider you a suspect. Basically, don’t hang out in places that no one needs to be at in the first place, don’t carry items around that you know you shouldn’t, and don’t commit crimes. Even blacks leaders will acknowledge that while there are a shit-ton of Blacks in prison, most of them probably did do it. Most white people in prison probably did it too.

    5. Get an education. No one is allowed to blame anyone else for their lack of intelligence, education, skills, reading level, math level and so forth. YOU are responsible for your own education. There are too many success stories out there of kids who came from broken homes, poor and/or violent neighborhoods and a shitty school system for anyone to blame “the system”. It’s too easy for an individual to blame “the system” for their own failures, you can make all the excuses you want but excuses don’t equal an education or make up for the fact that a HS drop out doesn’t have a job. Sorry, YOU drop out, YOUR fault.

    6. Raise your kids, or just plain don’t have them. It sounds harsh, but I’m not planning on kids until I’m 30, even though I’m 23 and married. This will enable my wife and I to obtain our Master’s degrees, get steady jobs and pay for a house. THEN we will have kids. If you already have kids though, take care of them, at least give the next generation an opportunity to succeed. Also, if you’re female, having 5 kids with 4 different fathers makes it really difficult to collect CS payments. Furthermore, if you’re a male, siring children with multiple women will break your bank account if you end up paying CS, or will make you a deadbeat dad if you don’t. Either way you’re screwing yourself and the kids.

    7. Bill Cosby is the man, listen to him.

    8. If you don’t like any of my comments (or all of them), please argue against them. Please attack the ideas and not the person, if you don’t like what the person is saying/typing. That’s the way to hash out issues.

  12. Marty,

    The only thing I can say is that you have thoroughly covered all the stereotypes of the black community except to add get off welfare it is like a drug. The problem with what you have here is that they are all symptoms. Any person in the medical industry will tell you that treating the symptoms makes no sense. Why are the things you say going on?

    1.) eliminate gangs. Sounds great, what is the plan? Maybe if we can get to these kids early on and give them the same self esteem that comes from being a respected member of society. But we continue to allow ourselves to be defined by white people. Oh no she is blaming the white man again. But who funds the music that is consumed, the music videos, the gangster rap? The stupid movies that stereotype blacks and continue pushing the gangster mentality.

    2.) Trust me this isn’t a “black thang”. I had to hear that bullcrap all the time in Idaho where I wouldn’t see another black person for months at a time. And this still hearkens back to number one.

    3.) I agree wholeheartedly! I hate garbage and can’t stand litter. Prostitution is a deeper issue and not indicative of a black problem and shouldn’t be listed as such. Most of the homes that are trashy are due to renters. Most people who OWN homes are NOT the problem. It is a combination of lack of care from the tenant who doesn’t own anything and doesn’t care and the owner who is looking to get paid and doesn’t care.

    4.) A lot of police are douches agreed. I am sorry I should be able to do what I want when I want if it isn’t illegal and feel secure that the police aren’t going to harass me. Unless I am to understand that it is OK to use racial profiling to ASSUME that just because a person is at a 7/11 at 2am is a criminal. And where is the mention of all the white people who commit crimes and were not jailed? Do they matter? And according to the DOJ there is a lot of systemic racism in the justice system. Such as blacks receiving more or any jail time where whites who did the same crime with the same rap sheet or worse had little or no jail time. There is just too much here to go into at this time. There are other posts on this particular topic.

    5.) So it is OK that black schools are systemically inferior to white schools just deal with it, right. Because there are those who went a bad school and succeeded in the end so it’s alright. I do agree that everyone should get educated as it is the only thing that might give you a leg up. But we can’t sit here and act as if it is a guaranteed ticket to success. In a study by Devah Pager (does this sound familiar to anyone else but me?) she found that white men with felony records and only a high school diploma had a higher employment call back rate to black men with a 4 year college degree and no criminal record. That is sad that black college grads have to fight it out with felony wielding white high school grads. But hey, we don’t want those black guys thinking that is any excuse as to why they can’t get hired.

    6.) Because we in the black community never raise our kids. Because the great propaganda says that we don’t. I’m sure you didn’t know this but the single mother statistics are much higher for white people and Hispanics. And somehow no one says that this is doing any harm to their community. So is this something that people think only ruins the black community? Or am I missing something. I think that family planning is important but lets not act as if it is some magic item that is ruining our community from the inside out.

    7.) Bill Cosby is a blithering idiot and I wouldn’t listen to him if he was the only person allowed to talk. He is one of the messengers who needs to put a sock in it. His message is stereotypical and flat out bunk. This is one of the problems I am having with your list. It is pretty much full of stereotypes and propaganda that is being circulated constantly. Black people have problems and we need to fix them. But we can’t fix anything if we only want to address the symptoms and not even symptoms that are endemic to the black community. These things you listed are problems for ALL communities. I just wish that we could stop being the biggest cheerleaders of the very propaganda that hurts our community like Bill Cosby. Welfare moms named Shaniqua out buying 500 dollar tennis shoes. Yeah right Bill, when a welfare check is usually around 4 to 600 dollars for a whole month, she really has that kind of spare cash. OK.

    8.) I try not to attack people unless you are blatantly racist in which you brought it on yourself and I don’t feel I have to take that. Or if you attack me then be totally ready for me to attack you back. If you are intelligent which you seem to be, we shouldn’t have any problem communicating with each other void of attacks.

  13. You know what I find amazing when I read web-sites like this. When there is a black or white problem, we ask someone black or white repectively to repair it. In my opinion this is wrong. White america states that blacks need to get it together and stop blaming whites. Listen if blacks have a problem, why don’t we view it as an american problem instead of a black one. To me that’s racism. White american states the playing field is at least somewhat better, but how can it be when you still view black issues as BLACK instead of american. One thing I can say is that some whites who appear to be racist have no clue. What I mean is they don’t know how the media is playing them. I’m in my mid- forties and black and you know what 98% of the blacks that I know will never think of committing a crime. That stat might be shocking to some whites, but it isn’t rare. The media blinds you. I also know there are a great deal of loving whites who haven’t a racist bone in their body, but since we never see it we think it doesn’t exist. White america I know many of you hate it, but the racism that has persisted in america is mostly in your laps. The state of affairs in the black community has more to do with you than you’re willing to admit. Whether you admit it or not doesn’t change the fact that it’s true. If any of you have lived long enough and don’t see the disparity, WOW.

  14. Darryl,

    What I find interesting is that you claim to be a black person in your mid forties and you don’t seem to understand who is behind the state of affairs in the black community. And somehow you think it’s me. Funny! Wow, lil ole me makes or breaks the black community. Now that is about as funny as you not knowing that you are just another sheep fed by mass media.

    Wow, you know blacks who don’t commit crimes, call the news that has to be a newsflash! Everyone know blacks who don’t commit nor want to commit crimes that isn’t special. And I don’t know what blog you are reading but I don’t believe that ALL white people are racists so you knowing white people who don’t have this racist bone isn’t news either.

    And no one I know, nor myself hate white people. I hate racism and disparity, but that doesn’t quite equate to hating the white community. And it is funny that you seem to wish to try and force your opinions to be taken as fact, by saying “Whether you admit it or not doesn’t change the fact that it’s true.” Why is it true? Because you said so? You are what is wrong with the black community. And it is true regardless if you admit it or not. Did me adding that make my statement FACTS?

    Bye, bye now!

  15. I like this blog, and I am in my mid 40′s as well…
    You will have to figure out what race I am by visiting my blog…and it will be clear.

    Seems like some people think pro-black is anti-white, and that’s what I call a simple-Simon rationalization.

    I know that white folks are the leaders in our nation for crime, murder, and mayhem.What’s worst, is that they are all cowards and backshooters by nature…it’s in their DNA.
    ..and I understand, because black people have consistently proven that we are physically more powerful and mentally superior to our white counterparts, so at this point in the history of the world, they have us under the gun…but that will not last.

    FYI…I also work i the media,animated TV and films, and the agenda in the media is to overtly and passively train black people to think that we are weak and that we are criminals,but that too is a lie….B.E.T. is not a black owned network,it is owned by VIACOM, the same white folks that own MTV and Nickelodean.

    Blogs like this are a great way to actually inform our children of our true history, so we can fully take over in our future…which is happening now.
    You must understand that this is the last stand of the progeny of slave masters…clocks ticking.

    http://jerrybrice.wordpress.com/

  16. Jerry Brice,

    I don’t know about what makes up white people’s DNA any more than I would believe that crime is in black folks DNA like some white people love to say. But one thing I can say is that your comment was sure enough interesting. I do believe that we need to take back our identity which IS being fabricated day in and day out by the media. Hopefully this is the last stand of those that wish to see black folks fail. And I will definitely visit your blog and see what you have to offer.

    Thanks for the reply.

  17. Yes sir,you are exactly right,and very fair.
    I am not a geneticist either, so I really do not know what’s in their DNA, but I came about that generalization based on my own experiences with them in work,and society…they are cowards.

    I just think that we need to understand that a cowardly race of people, are nothing to pattern ourselves after, and the black folks in the media have to make sure that our people, and our children understand that.

    The problem that currently exist, is that there are no black owned distribution outlets for us to get that message out to our people, unfiltered.
    I am developing an animated series currently with one of our top talents,on the top of the a A list, and the closer we get to the full budget for the series, the network forced us to hire some white writers, in preference of the black comedic writers that actually understand the material we are creating.
    They wrote a bunch of jokes against Martin Luther King, and a lot of other black civil rights pioneers, …but did not do any jokes about their heroes..
    When I tasked about this show, which is now a whit racist point of view, …they told me it’s”easier” to demeen African-Americans in the media, more so than anyone else…and that they do not care about the black celeb that we are all working for, because he is not important…

    These are typical hollywood writers that have Emmys…the celeb we are working for, has an Academy Award, so…I think that saying that he is not important, is ridiculous.
    The bottom line, is that they hate the fact that they have to work for a black guy,..no matter who he is, and since they already got paid, they are going to insult him.

    This is what happen’s in Hollywood when the black stars attempt to play the Hollywood game.

    Don’t worry, I have written in some jokes myself, from my P.OV….that they do not know about, but what is a drag is that I now have to spend all this time figuring out how to thwart their evil plan,it’s just all a waste of quality time, but if it goes unchecked,there may be another coon show on TV that is fronted by a black entertainer, but written from a white racist POV, like Amos and Andy, and the current incarnation of B.E.T.

    This is just a window in to what happens to black creations in Hollywood…my recomendation is to Tune it Out.

    At this point, it seems like the internet, and free media distribution, is our only hope to deliver an unfiltered view of black Americans, which means that we have to slowly build a following, and figure out how to last without serious financing, but it is necessary, and possible.

  18. Lover not a Hater

    I can’t wait for the day when EVERYONE is MIXED and beautiful like myself and our President!!!!! Then hopefully there will be no more of this “US vs THEM” mentality in our country. Optimistic, I know but thats how I keep going. And the media is definitely our enemy! All programs and commercials promote stereotyping and HATE.

  19. Everyone becoming light-skinned and multiracial will not fix racism. Humans have been killing each other for millenia over religion, sexuality, creed, etc. It will not stop because we lose the easiest way to discriminate which is skin-based racism. Our visual racism will just be replaced by cultural racism. It’s not just white people either. All races have this problem so it is clearly an inherent part of the human condition and present in most people, although not myself.

  20. nfamous23,

    Exactly what I was thinking. If it isn’t race, it is something else, like religion. Look at India and Pakistan. They were both once India, just one group was Muslim and the other Hindu. And thanks again to Britain’s colonialism, which put borders in the most inappropriate places, they broke India up calling the Muslim side Pakistan. And the two continue fighting today. And if you put a Pakistani next to an Indian, you wouldn’t notice any difference in looks. So it isn’t about look. It is about power to force differences where none really exist except for whatever we invented. So I agree with nfamous23, if there is no difference in color, we will find one somewhere else to extort.

    Thanks.

  21. John

    I would like to say something here about the generalization that black’s are being manipulated by the media. The way you say it, it sounds like ONLY blacks are being targeted. The media doesn’t give a rat’s ass about… well much of anything. All it cares about is payday. It manipulates whites blacks and everything in between, so many problems you present occur in white communities as well. It’s simply more glazed over, by everyone not just you. And of course how could you know? The media isn’t talking about it. They just want to put each demo into a mindset that they think will make you spend. If they think blacks will spend more when feeling like “we are weak and that we are criminals” then that’s what they will do. But if at any point they ever think that a bump to black self esteem or whatever else, positive or negative, will help there wallets, they won’t hesitate to switch over to a new tactic. The vast majority of the problems in this country are derived from the rich/poor Schism, not white black. Of course most blacks are on the poor side… but so are most whites, they just don’t know/believe it. Because the media wants US to think we’re in control. The media is simply the heavy handed fist of the corporate guys at the top. Their most visible propaganda machine.Black or whit, the media has successfully hijacked pop culture and molds PC to it’s whims.

    I also agree with nfamous. It’s simple biology. In a pack, you must put your needs and those of your pack before the needs of another pack of a similar type, and the needs of that pack before the needs of a disperate pack, and the needs of that pack before the needs of a different species etc etc etc. It was important for social survival. Not to mention its at the very heart of almost any inspirational movie of all time…. great hero finally unites the tribes to combat ________. A nemesis, or more generally a threat (perceived or otherwise) unites people. Makes them stronger. And as long as it gives us strength it will not be easily let go, and therefore the unsavory side effect will remain. This is the true root of all discrimination. It’s what makes militaries effective. What creates segregation. Discrimination. Prejudice. The root of (nearly) all evil and hate. If we are ever to enter a utopian state, it must be sacrificed once and for all. Or, at least until the next alien invasion >.O

  22. John,

    You are right that the things I speak of happens in every community. The problem with pointing that out to me is that I know this and I am speaking to a specific community. If I were speaking to the white community specifically, then I would be addressing the problems that they have. But since it seems obvious that I am speaking about the black community, then I am going to address the problems of this community. Not to mention it may happen in other communities but the black community seems to be over represented by these manifestations of media etc.

    Also, another problem is that with this so called pack mentality. If this is to be considered a possibility then the pack would include those living amongst you. So therefor we would see countries or states etc as the pack and everyone else as outsiders. But we don’t. We only see this so called pack as someone from our own race. That isn’t what a pack is about. A pack is about a group of beings living together and relying on one another to keep the pack going. I guess it is a good thing for dogs and wolves that they don’t rely on racism to form their packs. Because they probably wouldn’t be very successful just as we aren’t.

    Thanks.

  23. John

    Well the pack analagy is a bit skewed. I’m not saying the people you interact with so much as people you think yourself similar to, as in, in the wild packs are almost exclusively comrpised of animals of the same breed. It gets much more elaborate in human culture obviously. An example would be your 1st priority “pack” is family, then neighbors then city/town/village, etc. Ideally. but some people break it down to fam, SAME COLORED neighbors, SAME COLORED…. and then restart all over again with different colored. _____. Only extreme bigots don’t care what happens to them as human beings… I hope most simply put them way down the totem pole. I’d hate to think so many people simply have no regard to human life…

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