Gloucester’s Teen Baby Mama Drama

Gloucester High School is now dealing with a slew of baby mama drama. People are asking how these seventeen girls under seventeen could have made some idiotic pact to get pregnant together and raise their babies together. When anything in the black community happens such as teen pregnancy or drug usage or how about violence the first question that is asked is where the parents are. What kinds of parents are in Gloucester that they have NO idea that their children are out very well sleeping with 24 year old transients? I have yet to hear from Bill Cosby asking those parents to take responsibility or better yet for the whole white community to take responsibility for this group of blatantly idiotic white girls thinking that a baby will somehow make them happy.

They were saying stupid things such as they wanted the baby so they could feel loved. Well then I think any mother can safely say that those girls have not been around too many newborns or toddlers. Because you don’t really feel the love or at least you don’t have time to stop and feel the love. There are just too many dirty diapers, screaming tantrums, sleepless nights and many, many other issues to deal with. Regardless of all these facts a baby is one of the wonderful joys that life has to offer. Yet I don’t think that a bunch of unprepared young single mothers who don’t have a clue as to what they are getting into will be able to grasp this. Hell they couldn’t even grasp the idea of birth control or the fact that maybe those baby daddies didn’t want to hold that title.

Maybe these girls are idolizing Jaime Lynn Spears or maybe they just want to show solidarity with her. The idea of under age girls getting pregnant or even having unprotected sex should not be that far fetched. I mean don’t the people in that town watch television or movies where underage sex is all too common and in fact glorified. Don’t blame these girls, blame their parents. Why would these girls need to a baby to feel loved if they were getting what they needed from their parents? I mean these are the same parents who obviously didn’t pay enough attention to these girls that they were able to make a pact to get pregnant then complete their plan which probably didn’t happen all in one night.

I guess if there weren’t about twenty five or so girls at my sons school that were pregnant at this time I would think this news was extremely interesting. But I guess the fact that these girls are black and the school is in the inner city it is to be expected. In fact not only is it to be expected but it is just not interesting or a problem because that is what “those people” do, right? I guess it isn’t just what “those people” do anymore. I suppose it is now what all those kids do now. I wonder if this will prompt some sort of outcry and if it does will that same outcry for better education trickle down to the inner cities as well. My guess will be that it will be isolated to that one spot and the epidemic of teen pregnancies among the inner city youth will continue unabated.

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16 responses to “Gloucester’s Teen Baby Mama Drama

  1. Apparently Maury needs to move his crew that scares little girls straight into this town!!

  2. DJ

    Does anyone else think that this blog is a little stupid and outside of the issue? Where did race get involved in any of this? I don’t know the race of any of those students although I can assume from the rant that it was a primarily white school (not in the ‘inner city’). Regardless, my first thought was the same, what horrible parenting and ignorant kids, not, ‘I wonder what race they are?’ So, yes, you hit on some good points… it’s stupid to think that you will get unconditional love from a child. In the same regard, your intention to get on a race soapbox was a little off the issue. Way to try and get the ‘real issues’ out there though. And I love how you threw that villian Bill Cosby’s name in there…good stuff… good stuff.

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  4. Inner city or not; black or white; it really doesn’t matter. The overall (main) point gets lost when you look at race or demographics.

    I believe the parents are, for the most part, to blame.

    Sure you may have a child that rebels or makes mistakes. The issue is that as oppose to rebelling, they somehow truly believe a baby will make their life better.

    That is sad…

    Godfather (theslowbleed.com)

  5. Godfather,

    I agree with you to a certain extent. I do blame the parents. Also, I am only bringing up the context of race because there are currently about 25 girls at my sons all black school and whether they made a pact or not they are all pregnant. So I am wondering at what point this story is being aired for the fact that a bunch of girls in one school are pregnant or that the race is what it is. Because I think that if it were about the “amount” of girls then my sons school is definitely a bigger story.

  6. DJ,

    Obviously you don’t watch the news. They clearly said that ALL the girls were white and several times. The principal talked about how this was unreal for “their” area.

    So I guess maybe instead of trying to insinuate the relevance of the Blog contents you might try and actually “listen” to the news first.

    Then you could engage in a logical discussion on why 17 girls pregnant in one school that happens to be predominantly white is somehow more news worthy than 25 girls in one school who are pregnant in which the school happens to be predominantly black.

    But I am going to guess that you are too low on brain function to actually look beyond your little world in which “it doesn’t matter what race people are”. Because if you lived in the “real” world you would undoubtedly see that this country is in the throws of a large race debate.

    I would thank you for you reply but I feel that it was a waste of brain power to read as well as answer. Yet I owe it to my more intelligent readers to answer even people like yourself.

    Good day.

  7. I think everyone seems to be incensed by the input of race. I guess people feel that it doesn’t matter what race the people in the story are. Then I guess if the race of the people don’t matter then what makes 17 girls in one school MORE interesting than 25 and possibly more?

    It is the same with missing women. You will all say that race doesn’t matter then either. Yet what makes the plethora of white women missing a MORE viable story than those of the plethora of minorities who NEVER get any television time.

    You people are delusional if you think that race didn’t and doesn’t play a role in how the media, news and whatever gets stories put out to the public. If you don’t agree that race plays a part then explain “logically” why the story with less pregnant teens is more exciting or why a white lady missing is more important than a minority one.

    I suppose it could appeal to the majority. But then you are still playing along race lines. Just because some of you out there don’t have to think of race doesn’t mean that race isn’t a factor in things. So until someone can explain to me why race DOESN’T matter then I will continue to explore this angle.

    Thanks

  8. TBS,

    I think that is a very fair question as to whether the story would get the same play in an inner city black school.

    Depending on what statistics one believes, as many as 900,000 kids under 20 get pregnant every year. 51% of senior girls have stated they have had sex (compound that with the cut backs in general sex education).

    I remember a study by teenpregancy.org a while back. Of sexually experienced teens, somewhere around 21% where involved in a pregnancy (37% black, 51% hispanic).

    In the end, I think this story is getting more play than it should in relation to other schools or races. It is a non-racial problem (I am not suggesting you think otherwise), for some reason the media is all over this one.

    Godfather (theslowbleed.com)

  9. Godfather,

    I so agree with you. This is a non racial issue. This should be reported on across the board or not at all. I believe that this problem exists because of the cutbacks in sex ed like you said. But also this so called “teaching abstinence” that just isn’t working.

    These kids have the hormones raging and the opportunity. Not to mention they are seeing much more racy suggestive things such as movies and advertising which makes it seem that everyone is doing it.

    So we need to step up our plan of attack. Either we don’t want pregnant teens so we work to make it less apt to happen. Or we forget about it and let them do whatever. Which believe it or not I am getting from another post I did on Jaime Lynn Spears. Who at 16 just gave birth.

    People are saying that teens are going to do it so we should stop beating up on them when they do amongst other things. I just think this story is over done and that was part of the reason I was perturbed by it.

    Thank you so much for the intelligent reply.

  10. The Engineer

    This is a very sensitive subject.

    But it is not a new subject; the problem has existed for many decades; only this time, the problem is just beginning to plague the Caucasian Community in a significant way.

    Blame the parents? Whose parents?

    Perhaps, the question should be rewritten:
    Blame the parent?

    For reference, please see the Pat Moynihan report entitled, “The Negro Family:
    The Case For National Action
    Office of Policy Planning and Research
    United States Department of Labor
    March 1965”
    http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/history/webid-meynihan.htm

    Again, this is a very sensitive subject, but it is important. With a National Divorce rate of approximately fifty to sixty percent (50% – 60%), I believe the teen pregnancy problem is just one among many side effects due to the loss of the nuclear family, here in the United States of
    America, and the Caucasian Community is now deeply affected by that loss.

    That may be the reason why Gloucester is receiving so much attention and also the reason why other communities receive little or no attention.

    Thank you for listening.

  11. I heard recently that one of the things about it was that this was a sudden increase of 4 times the average for that area in one school year….

  12. There are lots of pregnant teenage girls all over this country, and even more throughout the rest of the world. People have sex, and they naturally start getting the urge to do so at ages much younger than most U.S. state laws of consent. So, I’m not surprised there are 17 white girls or 25 black girls pregnant at the respective schools discussed above.

    What makes this a major story of national interest is the “pact” involved. Most girls are surprised and disapointed at the prospect of becoming teen parents, though some manage to get on board and make the best of a bad situation. So, the idea that such a large group of girls intentionally decided to have children–aparently without much regard to the source of the sperm–while still in high school is a simply a fascinating, if not grotesque tale. I think if the girls had been black or Hispanic or Asian, the story would have had the same WTF? element.

    Admittedly, there may be some increased level of shock for people who may have originally thought the such an dumbass thing to do would normally come from inner city black girls, and not white girls, but that sort of latent racial bias is not the reason this is a major story. Anyone with a brain knows that girls of all races get knocked up in high school, they just don’t normally plan to do it as a “pact” among friends. That’s just kooky.

    I feel somewhat sorry for the guys involved. Having a hot little high school girl seduce them probably seemed like a dream come true, until the journalists and prosecuters showed up to ask questions. Yikes! They don’t call these girls jail bate for nothing.

  13. Miguelito,

    I agree that it probably was the pact. Did they check to see that these other places with high amounts of girls in one place being pregnant was or was not due to a pact etc.? But since we now know there was NO pact. The whole story is stupid.

    Also, I agree with you that the guys are who I feel sorry for. They probably had no idea these skanks were tricking them into fatherhood.

    Thanks for the reply.

  14. Fair question. I think it is reasonable to ask why the innercity schools don’t get the same play. However, wouldn’t you be upset if they didn’t show the white school as well, showing that this isn’t just a black innercity problem. It is all of society.

    Frankly the reason I think the white school got the air time was because the producers would call this out of the ordinary for the area. Yes, the thought is that it wouldn’t be for the inner city. Whether it is or not I do not know.

    In addition the media likes to show hypocracy in religion. This being a staunch Catholic community makes for a good show of hypocracy, therefore good ratings.

    Sad but true.

  15. The Engineer

    An addendum to my earlier comment is in order because I do not wish to leave your readership with a reference to a rather embarrassing report (The Moynihan Report) without some commentary on that report.

    The Moynihan Report
    http://www.dol.gov/oasam/programs/history/webid-meynihan.htm
    is an attempt to explain the state of the African-American family as it was in 1965 and the possible causes for the break up of the nuclear African-American family.

    The Moynihan Report was criticized. A New York Times article entitled, “Not the Ordinary Kind, In Politics or at Harvard; A Flawed Social Scientist With a Political Agenda? Or a Politician Whose Insights Buttress His Science?”
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9507E1DB1039F93AA3575AC0A9669C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all
    has a few good excerpts summarizing the criticism:


    Of all of Mr. Moynihan’s social science writings, none have proved as controversial as his report on the black family. Issued in March 1965, when Mr. Moynihan was an assistant secretary of labor in the Johnson administration, ”The Negro Family: The Case for National Action” argued that ”the breakdown of the Negro family has led to a startling increase in welfare dependency.” Because the report urged that federal policy be directed toward strengthening the family (implying that enhanced welfare payments were not the solution), it stirred anger among liberals and leftists. And because Mr. Moynihan said that measures that ”would work for most groups . . . will not work here,” he seemed to be saying that the problems facing the black family were more intractable than those facing any other group in the United States.

    Critics immediately denounced Mr. Moynihan’s reasoning, data and recommendations. William Ryan, a psychologist teaching at the Harvard Medical School, attacked Mr. Moynihan’s methodology in scathing tones in The Nation. ”No sophisticated social scientist,” he wrote about the idea of family breakdown, ”would rest a broad concept on such crude and simplistic measures” as out-of-wedlock births, for there were many forms the contemporary family could take. He said that Mr. Moynihan’s methodology was filled with fantastic errors that led to stupefying statements. Mr. Moynihan had cause and effect backwards, Ryan argued. It was not the Negro family structure that caused poverty; it was poverty and racism that caused the absent-father syndrome that Mr. Moynihan mistook for family instability.

    To this day, Mr. Moynihan’s critics point to ”The Negro Family” as an example of what can go wrong when a social scientist is too close to power to appreciate what it means to live in a society that treats its poor and its minorities as second-class citizens. The report’s analysis and findings, Ms. Piven maintains 35 years after its appearance, are ”not academically valid.” Mr. Moynihan did not control for other variables that might explain welfare dependency, she said. The report received so much attention, Ms. Piven said, not because of its discoveries but because it fit the backlash conditions of the time. Mr. Moynihan may not have been a conservative, but his report, in her view, paved the way for the conservative attacks on welfare that followed.

    Unfortunately, these conservative attacks on welfare and, by extension, attacks on Affirmative Action were supported by writings such as The Moynihan Report.

    And these attacks help fuel the racist environment. An example of such a racist attack is the following article entitled, “The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies” by Kay S. Hymowitz.
    http://www.city-journal.org/html/15_3_black_family.html
    This article is often referenced by Caucasian supremacist/separatist websits to support their warped views.

    One thing is certain in my view. The Moynihan Report identified the symptoms but only partially identified the causes, and somehow, those causes were assumed to be particular to ONLY African-Americans. I suspect that many in the Majority were secretly rejoicing in the problems detailed in The Moynihan Report. Many in the Majority wanted to see an end to African-Americans, and The Moynihan Report only reaffirmed their secret desire that the end was near for African-Americans. The mistake that the Majority made was to assume that what was happening to the African-American family of 1965 was only going to happen to the African-American family.

    Now, let us address this pregnancy problem as exemplified by these pregnant teenage girls in Gloucester.

    It is clear now that the social ills as described in The Moynihan Report are now plaquing the Caucasian Community. Gloucester is an example. More importantly, we are now learning that the “pact” was a hoax; therefore, the public is free to assume that what has happened in Gloucester is normal rather than a pre-engineered anomaly.

    So, this begs the question, “What is so big and powerful enough to influence and undermine the African-American and Caucasian-American Communities?”

    Drugs.

    Drugs undermine the reliability of any family. One only needs to Google the search string, “alcoholism divorce,” and one will find a lot of commentary on how alcohol has ruined many a family. Just imagine what methamphetamines, Heroin, cocaine, Ecstasy, Marijuana, Oxycontin, Vicodin, Ritalin, Adderall, just to name a few, will do.

    I have an interesting theory that a social scientist may wish to investigate:
    In the Western World, the divorce rate is directly tied to the addiction rate.

    To The Black Sentinel, thank you for posting my commentary.

  16. The Engineer,

    I agree wholeheartedly with your statements. Drugs and addiction undermine every aspect of family and society as a whole. If we were to pay as much attention to ridding the environmental issues that cause and breed drug abuse we might be able to get our society back together.

    Yet we are too busy worrying about big business and how to protect their interests than to actually make our society a better place. And now that the problems are migrating into the dominant community it is news worthy.

    Thanks for the comment.

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